You could perhaps use the example of the benighted character featured in these two references where he defines who the "enemy" is. He is also very much into the project of re-Christianizing Amerika.
Vance is of course closely associated with Opus Dei as are the people associated with and linked into the First Things outfit with which Paul Kingsnorth is also associated
These two new books describe the dark behind the scenes machinations of Opus Dei
1. Stench by David Brock
2. Opus by Gareth Gore
Some/many of the principal movers and shakers of the now notorious 2025 Project are closely associated with Opus Dei, as is Leonard Leo the number one honcho of the Federalist Society.
Hmm hard pass I think. These conspiracists attribute far too much power to the Church, not to mention diabolical motivations. Vance is a straight up guy….he’s doing politics, which is not the same thing as the work of the Church. …but he seems as good or bad as anyone else, and certainly sincere. That First Things have people like him as well as @Paul Kingsnorth Kingsnorth simply speaks to their diversity of perspective - and he is also a good, sincere, convert, doing his best in the world.
And just to be clear, I am not ‘associated’ with First Things. It’s a magazine I’ve written for twice, and given a lecture for once. I write for various places, as writers do, but it doesn’t tie me in to some bigger agenda.
Thanks- and that’s a great question….and I think of it a lot, as someone who grew up Quaker…..In fact I think I will write an essay on that specifically. The short answer, is that I suppose because I’m skeptical about modernity…i’m also skeptical about the imperial aspect of English dominance….18th/19th century, and more inspired by the Saxon, heptarchy thing - Oswald’s trek from Iona back to Northumberland, defeat of Cadwallah….all that stuff. Mythic….and the Celtic-Brythonic Arthurian aspect. I think certainly, post reformation historians over-egged the pudding…and England was much more catholic for much longer….and there was much that we left behind that we need….BUT the main thing is that the difference between catholics and protestants is now negligible compared with the the challenge of gnostic globalist materialism and transhumanism. SO I want to see Christianity as a whole fight back…..and let God deal with the issues dividing us further down the line. I LOVE Anglican Church music…….I love the churches…..I love ‘I vow to thee my country - specially for 2nd verse’….. But I will consider this more :)
I'm very sympathetic to all that actually. However popes come and go....that's the great thing about the Church...and I think practically the Church of England is on its last legs. There is a dispensation for Anglo Catholics coming into the Church - so I would like to see a wholesale move .....back to Rome and to build up the distinctively Anglo-Catholic rite (just as there is an Eastern Rite)...... In fact, I can't see any alternative. I just don't see any in the Anglican fold with the stomach for a visceral church at all. Even Reverend Giles in Unherd, seems to always pull his punches. The worst thing Maggie ever did was to liberalize Sunday trading. I still remember the shock and I was an atheist/lefty back then, Still thought it was awful.
Totally agree - and even more distributist would be the right to self-build without the state overseeing…..and all the planning and standards…. If you can build your castle, you become proud, skilled, independent and useful, but also networked in and interdependent with a bunch of other self-sufficient maker types Corporations and socialists are always the same. They want you passive, bonged out on drugs and incapable
You could perhaps use the example of the benighted character featured in these two references where he defines who the "enemy" is. He is also very much into the project of re-Christianizing Amerika.
http://www.thenerdreich.com/unhumans-jd-vance-and-the-language-of-genocide
http://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2024/03/08/cpac-attendees-america-under-attack
Vance is of course closely associated with Opus Dei as are the people associated with and linked into the First Things outfit with which Paul Kingsnorth is also associated
These two new books describe the dark behind the scenes machinations of Opus Dei
1. Stench by David Brock
2. Opus by Gareth Gore
Some/many of the principal movers and shakers of the now notorious 2025 Project are closely associated with Opus Dei, as is Leonard Leo the number one honcho of the Federalist Society.
This reference joins up all the dots
http://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2024/09/02/opus-deis-influence-on-project-2025
Hmm hard pass I think. These conspiracists attribute far too much power to the Church, not to mention diabolical motivations. Vance is a straight up guy….he’s doing politics, which is not the same thing as the work of the Church. …but he seems as good or bad as anyone else, and certainly sincere. That First Things have people like him as well as @Paul Kingsnorth Kingsnorth simply speaks to their diversity of perspective - and he is also a good, sincere, convert, doing his best in the world.
And just to be clear, I am not ‘associated’ with First Things. It’s a magazine I’ve written for twice, and given a lecture for once. I write for various places, as writers do, but it doesn’t tie me in to some bigger agenda.
Hmm I don’t think Kingsnorth and Vance are remotely similar
I appreciate the work that went into this. I look forward to reading it in full when I get the chance this evening. Thanks for the mention! God speed.
I also like the way Alt-Rohirrim sounds.
It’s very childish , but I love that joke too. I stole it off some meme.
Thanks- and that’s a great question….and I think of it a lot, as someone who grew up Quaker…..In fact I think I will write an essay on that specifically. The short answer, is that I suppose because I’m skeptical about modernity…i’m also skeptical about the imperial aspect of English dominance….18th/19th century, and more inspired by the Saxon, heptarchy thing - Oswald’s trek from Iona back to Northumberland, defeat of Cadwallah….all that stuff. Mythic….and the Celtic-Brythonic Arthurian aspect. I think certainly, post reformation historians over-egged the pudding…and England was much more catholic for much longer….and there was much that we left behind that we need….BUT the main thing is that the difference between catholics and protestants is now negligible compared with the the challenge of gnostic globalist materialism and transhumanism. SO I want to see Christianity as a whole fight back…..and let God deal with the issues dividing us further down the line. I LOVE Anglican Church music…….I love the churches…..I love ‘I vow to thee my country - specially for 2nd verse’….. But I will consider this more :)
Thanks for being supportive !!!!
I'm very sympathetic to all that actually. However popes come and go....that's the great thing about the Church...and I think practically the Church of England is on its last legs. There is a dispensation for Anglo Catholics coming into the Church - so I would like to see a wholesale move .....back to Rome and to build up the distinctively Anglo-Catholic rite (just as there is an Eastern Rite)...... In fact, I can't see any alternative. I just don't see any in the Anglican fold with the stomach for a visceral church at all. Even Reverend Giles in Unherd, seems to always pull his punches. The worst thing Maggie ever did was to liberalize Sunday trading. I still remember the shock and I was an atheist/lefty back then, Still thought it was awful.
Totally agree - and even more distributist would be the right to self-build without the state overseeing…..and all the planning and standards…. If you can build your castle, you become proud, skilled, independent and useful, but also networked in and interdependent with a bunch of other self-sufficient maker types Corporations and socialists are always the same. They want you passive, bonged out on drugs and incapable